{"id":2413,"date":"2018-03-21T09:19:08","date_gmt":"2018-03-21T09:19:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.freedomshillprimer.com\/institute\/?p=2413"},"modified":"2021-03-18T07:14:01","modified_gmt":"2021-03-18T07:14:01","slug":"storytelling-literature-and-language-an-interview-with-dr-britt-terry","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.freedomshillprimer.com\/institute\/2018\/03\/21\/storytelling-literature-and-language-an-interview-with-dr-britt-terry\/","title":{"rendered":"Storytelling, Literature, and Language\u2014An interview with Dr. Britt Terry."},"content":{"rendered":"<h2>Amanda Platz<\/h2>\n<p><em>Dr. Britt Terry is an Associate Professor of English at Southern Wesleyan University, and she is the Coordinator of the Department. Terry received her Doctorate in 19th Century British Literature from the University of South Carolina.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>ME: Alright, so just, thank you again for taking the time to let me interview you. So, my first question would be, where did you grow up?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>TERRY<\/strong>: I grew up Southern Greenville County, so about forty-five minutes from here, a really pretty rural, area. The closest think I think the town is found in is Simpsonville. So that\u2019s kind of where I grew up.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ME: Cool! And what was your family like? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><b>TERRY<\/b>: Ah, so my parents live on the land that my dad grew up on. My dad grew up on a dairy farm, so my grandpa owned probably like 500 acres. And there used to be a bigger piece of land, after World War 2 they changed things around, sold of some of that stuff. So, my dad literally lives across the street from where he was born. And then my uncles live right in that same area too. My mom is\u2014she\u2019s definitely a city girl. So, she grew up in Greenville proper, downtown and so, I\u2019m sure that one must\u2019ve been a transition for her.<\/p>\n<p>[Laughs}<\/p>\n<p>And I think that my parent\u2019s personalities kind of mirror that. My dad\u2019s really very practical and stuff like that and my mom is more of the bookish reader person.\u00a0 I have a brother, and he\u2019s younger than me. He\u2019s almost exactly three years younger than me. We\u2019re like, 2 years and 364 days apart. His birthday is the day before mine. And he\u2014now he lives next door to my parents. [laughs]. On that same piece of land.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ME: that\u2019s cool! So where did you go to college? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>TERRY<\/strong>: For my undergrad and my masters I went to Winthrop University. So that\u2019s right south of Charlotte, in Rock Hill, South Carolina. And I loved that place. After I finished my undergrad\u2014I did English Education, and when I student taught I thought \u201cthat is not what I want to do.\u201d\u00a0 But that was my, that was in my senior year, so that was probably the wrong time to be changing my major or having an identity crisis&#8211;But I stayed on for the masters, and then I worked there for probably, I guess four more years after I finished the master\u2019s degree. And then I went to USC in Columbia for my PhD.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ME: So, what was your major?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>TERRY<\/strong>: So, I was English Ed as an undergrad and I liked it. There were things that I didn\u2019t love. I did like teaching, but I didn\u2019t like all the other stuff that I had to do with high school, which I didn\u2019t really realize until I student taught. And then my MA was just English Lit, and then at Carolina I did a specialty in 19<sup>th<\/sup> century British Literature. And then 20<sup>th<\/sup> century is the minor\u2014you have to choose a secondary area, so.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Me: Cool! How did you choose your major? What drew you to English? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>TERRY<\/strong>: So, I always liked to write. I always loved reading. \u00a0I knew I wanted to write, but I didn\u2019t know exactly how that was going to work itself out. So, I guess it was in high school, maybe middle school, I worked for our literary magazine and our newspaper\u2014or our yearbook, I\u2019m sorry. And so, I couldn\u2019t decide between Journalism and English. I also wrote for the Greenville news, which I guess is still around here, while I was in high school. So, I liked it, and I initially, this is a little weird but, this is how it got there. Between my Junior and Senior years of high school I went to an arts camp and I met all these cool people so I did a drama thing and I did journalism and I did creative writing. I thought \u201cthese are my people, I want to be with these people!\u201d So, I applied to the school where the camp was held, and it was the only place I applied. And then when I went and visited it, it was totally different, because all the arty nerds weren\u2019t there anymore. So, my parents kind of talked me into applying at Winthrop, which I was just like, \u201cno, I don\u2019t wanna go there. It\u2019s too close to home.\u201d Which was ridiculous because the other school was exactly the same distance away, except for like, in the opposite direction. So, I went and visited it and I had a relative who worked there and he introduced me to somebody in the English department and somebody in the Journalism department and it was just some kind of like, I like the English people more than I liked the journalism people. And it was just some kind of like, I like the English people more than I like the journalism people and that\u2019s how I chose it\u2014it was completely arbitrary and off some kind of like, whim I guess. So that\u2019s how I chose the English major. And I chose secondary education because I was going to \u2018fall back on teaching\u2019 if my writing career didn\u2019t work out.<\/p>\n<p>[both laugh]<\/p>\n<p>This is a familiar narrative<\/p>\n<p><strong>ME:<\/strong> <strong>I\u2019ve heard that a lot.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>TERRY<\/strong>: Yea. So that is how I did that. And then when I student taught I was thinking \u201cwhat have I done? I hate\u2014\u201d it was like horr-well it wasn\u2019t that bad, but was not great\u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>ME:<\/strong> <strong>Not ideal, yea.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>TERRY<\/strong>: Yea.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ME: So you originally wanted to do writing?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>TERRY<\/strong>: Yea that\u2019s what I thought I did. Yea. I don\u2019t think I understood what exactly English majors did. But I knew that they read and write, so I liked that. So that\u2019s how I chose that.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ME: So, did you grow up enjoying English?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>TERRY<\/strong>: Yea, so I was the person who read all the books and I had this&#8211;I don\u2019t know, it\u2019s hard to really actually remember instead of listening to narratives my family tells or what I think I remember. Because my brother is very opposite from me. He\u2019s mechanically inclined, he builds and takes things apart, and he\u2019s an outside kind of guy, and super outgoing, and completely even-tempered, and just\u2014that guy. And I am not that person, so I know I read a lot, I do remember that. I remember reading just anything I could get my hands on. But I also think I spent a good bit of time outside. I always liked movies and things like that, so I was always interested in cultural stuff, I guess. But there was also a kind of a hands-on part of my personality too. But yea, I mean I can remember in elementary school I had notebooks where I\u2019d write down little stories, or draw little pictures, things like that. I at some point wanted to be a naturalist. Until I took chemistry, and then I was like \u201coh no, I can\u2019t do this. This is math that doesn\u2019t make any sense. No\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>ME: So, you talked about teaching, at High School, do you prefer teaching College to High School, and what are some of the differences there? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>TERRY<\/strong>: Well, some of it is a difference in perception. But I do know that my sister-in-law, my brother\u2019s wife, is a high school administrator, my husbands brother is a high school teacher, so now I have a bit of a better idea of what I would have done. I think the difference is in high school\u2014teaching high school there are so many things that you have to do. And so, I guess I was 22, 23 when I graduated. I wasn\u2019t ready for that! To tell people to &#8220;stop smoking\u201d or whatever. I didn\u2019t understand that there would have been bathroom duty involved and I just was like \u2013\u201cI don\u2019t know that I \u00a0want to police people\u2019s bathroom habits.\u201d \u00a0Just stuff like that, and then \u00a0I was like \u201coh, I have to help with an extracurricular activity? I didn\u2019t really do any of those in high school.\u201d Which is also sort of not true, but like I just thought I would be the person who was talking about books, and my students would totally get into it, and things like that. So, I think, all the extra kind of things that a high school or really a secondary school teacher has to do are things I didn\u2019t think about \u2018till I actually started student teaching. I also was taken aback by the\u2014I don\u2019t know\u2014I was just completely na\u00efve, that I thought people would like the books I liked, because I liked them, which is sort of ridiculous. I also wasn\u2019t prepared for students who really could not read, even though they were in 10<sup>th<\/sup> grade. They had a very low reading level, and I didn\u2019t know what to do, because my training hadn\u2019t prepared me for things like that. I was not prepared to deal with people\u2019s parents, which\u2014I didn\u2019t think that was going to be a thing either. I honestly had no idea. So, it was all those things coming together while I was student-teaching that made me kind of panic and go \u2018this is not what I want to do.\u2019 And I really didn\u2019t come back to teaching until I was able to teach some classes as an adjunct at Winthrop. After I finished my masters I was an admissions counselor, and then I got to teach a couple adjunct classes. And that\u2019s where I realized \u201coh, I like teaching, I like books, I don\u2019t like all that other stuff,\u201d and at that point I don\u2019t think I was mature enough to do all that other stuff.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ME: So, what is involved in teaching a college class?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><b>TERRY<\/b>: Well, a lot of reading. You have to know your stuff. I think there is a lot of balance between having a plan and leaving room for what might come up. So, this kind of improvisation based on a theme. So, I\u2019m gonna set up these parameters that I wanna do, but if the class doesn\u2019t get it or if they don\u2019t\u2014they wanna learn something else\u2014being able to play within those boundaries I guess. There\u2019s a lot of that. So, I have to kinda think a few days ahead, and also \u201calright, what do we want to do in this class today? How are we gonna get there? What are the ways to do these things?\u201d so I have to kinda have a \u2013not a bag of tricks\u2014a set of things, ingredients like it\u2019s a recipe that I can use, then kinda pull in other parts depending on how the class works. There\u2019s also some assessment peace to it if you\u2019re a good teacher you\u2019re reflecting on \u2018okay, how did that work this time? What can I do better?\u201d which is sometimes the beauty of teaching three sections of Comp, which can get a little repetitive, but it also lets me go \u201cokay, this worked for this class, lemme try something different, or how can I incorporate another piece in this class?\u201d so there\u2019s a lot of experimentation I think. You gotta kinda know your stuff and have at least a loose plan and being flexible enough to let the students take hold of that.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ME: So as an English person, what drew you to the art of storytelling and how do you think that\u2019s important for the human existence? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>TERRY<\/strong>: You know, I think we are\u2014I can remember there are stories I just love\u2014I can recall\u2014and I wish\u2014I feel like I could find this book again. But as a kid there were books that I really just loved. And there\u2019s this one about these bears that go to a Halloween party: like the parents go to a party and the baby bears pop all this popcorn and it fills the whole house and they\u2019re like\u2014they kinda panic when the mom and dad are going to come back so they eat all the popcorn. It\u2019s just a beautifully illustrated book. I loved that thing. So that\u2019s a book that I feel like I could probably search and find on Amazon, but I can remember stories that I really loved and being able to retell those kinds of things. I think my family are\u2014they\u2019re storytellers. Even when they give directions they\u2019re like narratives. They\u2019re not like \u201cgo three miles on this road and turn left on exit 42,\u201d it\u2019s more like \u201cgo past Mr. Johnson\u2019s house\u2014he was the guy who used to own the elementary school.\u201d You know, that kind of thing is part of my upbringing. We also had some really good bible storybooks too, so knowing those stories, which, sometimes I\u2019m surprised people don\u2019t know some of the stories you need to know that are like\u2014even if you don\u2019t believe them or you\u2019re not a Christian, you kinda need to know what happened in the Garden of Eden to understand Western Literature. Sorry, you just do\u2014or a lot of western literature. So, I think that people in general are storytellers. I think that\u2019s how we relate to each other. I think it builds empathy. So, my students, we\u2019re reading in Comp right now <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Raisin-Sun-Lorraine-Hansberry\/dp\/0679755330\">\u201cA Raisin in the Sun,<\/a>\u201d so just kinda thinking about okay, it\u2019s obviously not 1959 right now, you don\u2019t live in the south side of Chicago, but can you\u2014how can you identify with these characters? How are they like us and not like us? I think storytelling gives us a way to empathize with other people but also create our own\u2014well, not necessarily create, but like, I don\u2019t know, narrate our own identities, to show people what we\u2019re really like. And I do think that ultimately it is a part of the way that we participate in being image-bearers of God. It\u2019s a way that of being creative. And its to the point that it\u2019s so ingrained whether it\u2019s cultural, natural or both of those things that we do it without thinking about it. So, I think that it\u2019s really important for us to understand each other as people and then that way it\u2019s also reflections of God as being creative entities.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ME: So, to follow that up, I have a friend, who doesn\u2019t understand the value of stories. He doesn\u2019t appreciate them he thinks that if you\u2019re gonna read, why don\u2019t you just read a non-fiction book? Because then you\u2019ll get the information faster\u2026 So, my question is how would you argue with someone who doesn\u2019t see the value in stories? How would you explain to them why stories are important?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>TERRY:\u00a0<\/strong>My first inclination is to give them a book to read. Like, read the beginning of <em>Hard Times<\/em>. Do you want to be Mr. Gradgrind, who is like, basically a robot? Is that what you want? That\u2019s okay with you? I don\u2019t think it\u2019s okay. I don\u2019t think people are tools. That is taking it to an extreme, obviously. I \u2013 this is a weird thing \u2013 after I finished my dissertation I read a couple of fiction texts but now I gravitate towards nonfiction. I read tons of nonfiction texts, and in fact I tried to make a little goal for myself to read at least two fictional texts before spring break. I don\u2019t know if that\u2019s gonna happen\u2014like, fun, apart from school. The other thing I would say is that good nonfiction writing still is narrative. It is narrative. Unless you wanna read a list. Some of the really good\u2014what am I reading now? I started reading this book called <em>Game of Queens<\/em>. It\u2019s not the best title, but it\u2019s about women rulers in the early modern period, but it is told like a story. So right now, I\u2019m learning about Anne Boleyn being in the court of \u201cMargaret something\u201d\u2014I can\u2019t remember her name\u2014in the Netherlands. But it\u2019s told like a story. It\u2019s not like \u201cshe went here at this time. Here\u2019s a piece of a letter she wrote. The end.\u201d So, I think that\u2014and another part of me just doesn\u2019t understand. Why does everything have to be so <a href=\"https:\/\/www.merriam-webster.com\/dictionary\/utilitarianism\">utilitarian<\/a>?<\/p>\n<p><strong>ME: Good question.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>TERRY:\u00a0<\/strong>I would ask your friend, like, \u201cokay, why&#8211;do you own more than two pairs of shoes? Like, you don\u2019t really need\u2014\u201d I think storytelling and fiction pulls into our desire to be creative and yea. That\u2019s not to say that nonfiction can\u2019t do that, because it can. You know, something like Malcom Bywell\u2014that guy is like, a great storyteller. That\u2019s why I\u2019m reading a book about Basketball that\u2019s all about these little narrative vignettes, but it is a nonfiction text.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ME: So it kind of clicked into my head last night that God created language! I mean, I grew up knowing this, but what implications does this have on how we study language? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>TERRY:\u00a0<\/strong>So I think the two biblical things I think about when we think about language are Babel and Pentecost. And I think people live too much in Babel. They\u2019re like \u201coh, language is corrupt. Communication is\u2014\u201c\u00a0 whether you read that story literally or figuratively, that God confused people\u2019s languages in the Babel story and that\u2019s because of pride. Or direct communication was severed between Adam and Eve and God, so after the fall we can\u2019t communicate in the same way that the first people did with God. And I think that\u2019s true, obviously. We don\u2019t\u2014we can\u2019t completely express what we mean and then we can\u2019t absorb what other people say to us in the way that it\u2019s intended, and sometimes you don\u2019t even know what you intend. But I think that people forget that there is a restoration that has happened with Pentecost, and that is continuing to happen the closer we get to the second coming. Pentecost is a redo Babel. All the disciples are saying the same message, so Peter, just one guy, is saying the same thing but all those people from all those places with all these different languages all hear the same message in their own language. They don\u2019t hear another Jesus language, they don\u2019t hear it only in Aramaic or whatever Peter would\u2019ve spoken. They don\u2019t hear that, they hear it in their own language. So that, to me, shows this kind of grace that God gives us, that there is this restoration. That what was maybe scrambled before is being pulled back into this kind of unity; but unity does not mean uniformity. There is diversity and that is something that we should be seeking to preserve instead of assimilating. And so my other school, where I taught in their bridge program, so I had students who didn\u2019t do very well with English, and that\u2019s why they were taking an extra class, and lots of them were from really rural places, so they had accents and they spoke nonstandard English and so I\u2019d get on my little soap-box and say \u201cOkay, that\u2019s fine. I understand you, all these other people understand you. You should be glad about where you come from and what you say. But also know that people are gonna judge you because you say the things you do. So you\u2019ve got choices. You can start doing these things that it\u2019s not going to hurt you to learn, standard written English. But that\u2019s also to say that you don\u2019t need to get rid of where you\u2019re from or even how you talk, that\u2019s totally fine. So yea, I get a little cranked up about that.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ME: Good thing to get fired up about. So I know we talk a lot about in Literary Criticism, about how to look at literature how to analyze it\u2014how does our faith affect how we read and critique literature, and study it? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>TERRY:\u00a0<\/strong>So, I think that there are a bunch of different ways to do that, of course. But I personally have to kind of think about my loyalties, what I ultimately think is true when I read a text. So, for me that doesn\u2019t necessarily mean like, not reading something with swearing or sexy time or something in it. I love pop culture, I love lots of things that probably\u2014so I don\u2019t feel like I need to censor myself that way, but as a teacher I need to understand that not everybody thinks the way I do and sort of thinking about how somebody else might perceive what I\u2019ve written or what I think about. So that kind of thing. I also think that it\u2019s important not to just \u2013what I would call\u2014I used to teach these faith integration classes where I\u2019m using the analogy of a cupcake with sprinkles on top or the cupcake that has\u2014like the funfetti cake\u2014with the sprinkles baked into the cake. It should be the latter, not the former. You don\u2019t need to just sprinkle Jesus on your criticism: \u201cand that\u2019s what Jesus would think.\u201d You have to think about how your faith and your Christianity works through the lenses of these other things. For me that looks something like what we\u2019re reading in the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Whos-Afraid-Postmodernism-Foucault-Postmodern\/dp\/080102918X\">James K.A. Smith<\/a> stuff, that like, he\u2019s definitely a Christian but he\u2019s also not like \u201coh, these godless heathens, let\u2019s never read them, they\u2019re horrible. Let\u2019s throw the baby out with the bathwater.\u201d How can we integrate these things? So that kind of perspective, thinking about that all truth is Gods truth, however we get to it. \u00a0I guess knowing what your loyalties and knowing too that you have blind spots that you can\u2019t see, so also be open to a critique from someone else. And also, that looks like, I haven\u2019t really run into this, disparaging you because you are looking through something from a Christian lens and being upfront about that. So, I\u2019m thinking about the last paper I presented was about Prince, and I talked about the images of the apocalypse in his words, so I don\u2019t think you can talk about the biblical apocalypse without talking about the Bible and Jesus, so my presentation did do a lot of that. Perhaps it wasn\u2019t what people expected, but that\u2019s what they got.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ME: So as Christians you don\u2019t think we should avoid books because they don\u2019t have content we like? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>TERRY:\u00a0<\/strong>Yea, I mean, I think that there are definitely things that I\u2019ve been horrified by, you know or offended by. But you have to be able to articulate what that is, even if you\u2019re just doing it for yourself. So like, one of my students from my comp class was joking\u2014I think he was joking, he keeps saying it, so I\u2019m assuming he\u2019s joking\u2014that he wants to read <em>Fifty Shades of Grey<\/em>. And I was like \u201cgross, no. why do you want to\u2014\u201d and not because it has tons of sex in it (I mean, I haven\u2019t read it, but I assume), but I don\u2019t have time to read something that badly written. That\u2019s what I\u2019ve heard it was poorly written too, that like, that\u2019s the plot, and it borders on being pornographic, and I don\u2019t have time to read that. And that\u2019s why. It\u2019s treating these characters like they\u2019re tools for your instinctual desire. So being able to articulate what you\u2019re gonna read and what you\u2019re not gonna read and why that is. Another student at a former school was doing a project and she was reading a semi-historical novel about a woman warrior who was fighting during the Norman conquest, and the student came up to me and said \u201cyea, there\u2019s like a sex scene.\u201d And I was like \u201cokay.\u201d And she said \u201cI can\u2019t read it anymore.\u201d \u201cokay. Here\u2019s another book. That\u2019s fine, that\u2019s your prerogative.\u201d But I really wanted to say \u201cyou\u2019re totally cool with the massive slaughter that was happening. Tell me the difference there?\u201d I had a student\u2014well, this was my colleague at CSU who was offended by swearing in an James Baldwin story, but not offended by the crazy racism in the same story, which is why the character was swearing. Its like, \u201cthis is not offensive to you, but two cuss word are, and they weren\u2019t horrible cuss words?\u201d so I think being able to articulate that, and then also to know that borrowing from Paul\u2019s sort of admonitions that \u2018causing another person to sin, or thinking about your brother or sister in Christ, what\u2019s going to be damaging to them?\u201d so just thinking through those things.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ME: So would you say that it\u2019s a good idea to read books that we disagree with, and why? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>TERRY:\u00a0<\/strong>Oh, yea, I think you should read books you disagree with. I mean, A\/1. How do you know you disagree with it to read it, 2. This is kind of a debate that I think I\u2019m having prematurely with my husband. My child, she\u2019s only 2, but she\u2019s not going to be 2 forever. My husband went to Christian school, small things, I went to public school, and I\u2019m like \u201cshe\u2019s going to the public school! She needs to be\u2014she\u2019s not gonna live in our house for the rest of her life (at least I hope not).\u201d So she\u2019s gotta be able to interact with a world that is diverse and that is not necessarily safe, and it certainly isn\u2019t sealed off. So even, and I think about my own experience, I grew up in church, never like, I guess I had small crises of faith, but nothing like abandoning the church or the faith or anything like that. But I really didn\u2019t meet\u2014I thought everybody sort of thought like I did until I went to grad school and then just being open to different perspectives and having to say, within Christianity. I came in my freshman year, I went to this, Alternative Faith Alliance thing on our campus, which was this\u2014I didn\u2019t know what it was, so I went, they had a drum circle, so I was like \u201cokay, cool.\u201d But then they had this Pagan altar and all this stuff, and I was like \u201coh my gosh, what am I doing?\u201d but then I was like \u201cokay. I mean, that\u2019s not what I do, but okay.\u201d But it wasn\u2019t until grad school when I met people who were like\u2014I was going to say \u2018crazy\u2019 but I don\u2019t mean that<a href=\"https:\/\/www.merriam-webster.com\/dictionary\/pejorative\"> pejoratively<\/a>, super like, Calvinist or \u2018holiness tradition,\u2019 where they\u2019re like \u2018No pants for women, no makeup,\u201d and I was like \u201cdo what?\u201d and then like, I mean I really had never encountered\u2014so it was more of that then people I went to college with who were for sure atheists. SO I do think that reading books that give us perspectives that are not ours are things that we should read. And we should be able to say &#8220;alright, here\u2019s why I don\u2019t like it\u201d and not it being a matter of personal taste: \u201cHow does this interact with my loyalties to Christ? How does this work in my practices? What is this book even saying?\u201d I think what we\u2019ve been talking about in Literary Criticism, that sometimes authors write books that they don\u2019t necessarily agree with or intend to be one way or another, so I think it\u2019s important to read things that are not what we agree with?<\/p>\n<p><strong>ME: Final question, you went to a Christian school and a Non-Christian school. What were some of the differences between them, and what did you enjoy and get out of both of them?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>TERRY:\u00a0<\/strong>My inclination is to say I really\u2014I mean, teaching at [Former School] (so that\u2019s really the only Christian school I specifically dealt with before coming here) had me really think more carefully about my loyalties and my positions on \u2013and I mean obviously these are, in the grand scheme of things, teeny little things, but it\u2019s a Southern Baptist school, I grew up United Methodist, I have different theological perspectives than those. I feel I\u2019m teachable but some things I\u2019m sort of, I\u2019m really very, I think I\u2019m very moderate, but it was a very conservative school, so it had me think about a lot of things that I hadn\u2019t before, and it felt restrictive there. I think I was fortunate enough to go to schools even like my public schools, my precollege stuff at Winthrop. Finding my professors at Winthrop, my mentor, they are Christians, but they are sort of the fusty Episcopalians. But we talked about that stuff, they knew I went to church all the time there, I had a good community, yea. I had the same thing at USC. But my dissertation director and I had\u2014I wouldn\u2019t say a confrontation\u2014but arguments over those kinds of things. At some point, and I\u2019m not sure that she respects my faith, but at that point I don\u2019t care, can we just be grown-ups and do this thing? So it helped me think through a lot of things that way. But&#8211;this sounds kinda crazy\u2014I felt freer at the state institutions than I did at Christian ones. \u00a0Feel like you\u2019re more, you have to have a hot take on \u201cwhat do you think about this? 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